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Ivan Panin’s Biblical Numerics

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  1. I am not sure who is receiving this, but will take the chance that it is someone who loves the lord God above all else.

    The ONLY acceptable version of the WORD of God is the Authorized King James Bible.

    In it, there can not be a single letter removed, for it is equal to the Divinely inspired WORD of God in the original texts, and equal to everything that Ivan Panin found in his study.

    The entire Authorized king James Bible is so Divinely inspired, one can find things such as Panin found in other texts, and it would be totally impossible for any number of humans to devise such a magificent work, and it could ONLY have come directly through God’s inspiration.

    The WORD of God in the English language is the AKJV, and it does not relate to a number ( like the 7 that Ivan Panin fopund) , bnut is related to many different numbers that God uses to recognize as a FULLNESS.

    Numbers such as 44 or 144, 34 or 134, 66, or 166, 141, or 110, and more, that all refer to thingsin their respective FULLNESS unto God. The manner in which God uses these numbers is truly amazing, and could only be His glorious work…not that of man…or men.\

    W.H. (Bill) Cole

    Comment by Wm H. Cole — April 20, 2010 @ 10:54 am | Reply

    • http://petrostelos.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/panin.pdf

      Mr. Cole: Please note that this is the correct link for my article on Ivan Panin.

      I can’t accept the KJV being the only authorized version of the Bible; first, the KJV was translated in the 17th century by Englishmen; in the case of the New Testament, they were using a text based upon a handful of late Byzantine manuscripts of the New Testament.

      But if only the KJV is the Word of God, what are my pygmy friends supposed to read, as they are not speakers of English?

      Comment by P. W. Dunn — April 20, 2010 @ 12:27 pm

    • Mr. Dunn: Read on, and witness a couple of samples of God’s work. There is NO OTHER acceptable Bible ….ONLY the Authorized King James….not even the “NEW” King James.

      God Bless.

      Comment by Wm. H. (Bill) Cole — April 20, 2010 @ 12:30 pm

    • I apologize if I am using your website in this manner f you do not agree that I should. If anyone wishes to email me they are free to do so, at

      Comment by Wm. H. (Bill) Cole — April 20, 2010 @ 12:31 pm

    • I’m not worried about your comment; and I am happy to maintain the discussion on line, unless it turns out that are some kind of Troll. But if your comment is sincere, then no worries.

      Comment by P. W. Dunn — April 20, 2010 @ 1:04 pm

  2. After writing the first comment, I had something to eat and a cup of tea, and thought perhaps I should give some examples of the Divine manner in which our Lord God Almighty has written many mysteries into His WORD, and how to decipher them. It is a labourious task, but extremely rewarding.

    I will give a few examples, and feel free to make comments on them, or email me at .

    ALL references are from the Authoprized King James Bible, and they will not necessarily be found anywhere else.

    It is necessary to understand that there are 26 letters in the ENGLISH or Universal alphabet, and that should come as no surprise when we look at the Author and Creator of this world whose name is spelled with the G ( 7th letter) O ( 15th letter and D ( 4th letter) totalling 26.

    The letters of the English alphabet , therefore have a numerical relationship with the numbers of their position in that alphabet. You will soon see just how this was formulated by the Lord God Almighty.

    Let us start with the description of creation of this one world. Genesis Chapter 1: verses 1 to 31.

    In this description of one creation ( one world) there are in Chapter 1, a total of 797 words. After this full cescription, there is a summation of what God had done, given in the 1st three verses of Chapter 2 of Genesis, containing a total of 67 words.

    In the words of the entire Chapter 1, we have 797 words, using a total of 3167 letters, in the 31 verses and this is seen as 31 (verses) and 67 (words) of Chapter 2, covering the total of creation of this ( and all previous ) world(s)and the summation as shown.

    Why did God have His definitive WORD first published in England in 1611 A.D.

    Let us examine the setting: example: [ C= 3 , R = 18, O = 15 , W = 23 , N = 14 , totalling 73 ]

    It should not come as a surprise then, that God had His final authoritative WORD published in England under the authority of the CROWN ( 73 ) of the Supreme and Regal governing King of the NATION (73) of BRITAIN (73) and more recent than the reign of King James, this country has been known as the UNITED (73) KINGDOM (73) and this SEVENTYTHREE has a numerical count of 166, which is seen as 1 Bible with 66 Books.

    Look also at the name of the King who directed the first publication of God’s WORD, ( incidentally the same name as the brother of JESUS ) JAMES = (41) and this FORTY (84) ONE (34 ) are together seen as 84 + 34 = 133, symbolic of the MIDST of the entire Bible, the 117th Psalm and 1 with the MIDST of the 66 Books of God’s WORD.

    Look too at ENGLAND (57) and in this number we see it as FIFTY = (66) and SEVEN (65) totalling 131, and in the Trinitarian FULLNESS ONE = 34, THREE = (56) and ONE = (34) totalling 124, and parallel to the center of 1 day with 24 hours of time.

    As stated, King James resided in the English ( 74 ) city of LONDON (74) which is seen symbolizing the FULLNESS unto God of a HUNDRED (74)( such as seen in 100 % )

    This city ( London) is located on the PRIME (60 ) MERIDIAN ( 73 ) and together that name is seen as a total of 60 + 73 = 133, again representing the 1 FULLNESS with the MIDST ( 33 ) of God’s WORD which has 66 Books.

    The PRIME MERIDIAN is the geographical center of the globe, with 12 hours in either direction to the International Dateline, and so God had His Divinely Inspired WORD published there to ( metaphorically speaking) go to the four corners of the world from the center of the world..

    It should also be pointed out here that England is also known as GREAT (51 ) BRITAIN (73) which totals 124, and sybolic of the MIDST of the 24 hour day, the city of London located in the center of that 24 hour day.

    There is so much more than what I can write here, for I have many thousands of pages written that would amaze and shock anyone, even Ivan Panin.

    Look then, at the names of the 5 habitable continents that make up the world:

    AMERICA ( 50 )

    ASIA ( 30 )

    EUROPE ( 80 )

    AFRICA ( 38 )

    AUSTRALIA ( 102 )

    TOTALLING : 300 and this three hundred is the sum total of the numbers from 1 to 24, as in the hours of a day.

    In Genesis Chapter 1, God said that
    ” The EVENING ( 76 )and the MORNING (90 ) were the ____ day, and the Evening and the Morning total 166, similar to God’s WORD of 1 Bible with 66 Books to serve the world.

    That Bible has two Testaments, the OLD ( 31 ) and the NEW (42 ) which also total 73, and that number as shown, is equal to 166.

    There are many things such as thee time when God spoke to Abraham and told him that the children of Israel would serve others in a land that was not theirs ( Egypt) and when this was written in the scriptures it can be found in Genesis 15:13, and the 400 hundred years of slavery ended perecisely in the year 1513 B.C.

    It is clear that God had that verse of scripture placed precisely in the Chapter and verse using the same year ( B.C. ) in which their slavery would end.

    If anyone is as amazed as I am after many years of study, they can contact me at the above listed email address, and we can take it from there. I do not own a computer, and am obliged to use the one at our local Library.

    I live in the town of Aurora, Ontario, in Canada.

    May God bless each person who serves our Lord through His wonderful works.

    Comment by Wm. H. (Bill) Cole — April 20, 2010 @ 12:27 pm | Reply

    • If you’d do some better research, you’d find that there is no “J” in either Hebrew or Greek, therefore the name “Jesus” and “James” are less than accurate translations and in fact, Jesus’ brother’s name was not “James.” The “J” was the gift of the Germans, whose unfaithfulness to God’s Word has been well-established.

      Many speculate, I think correctly (but it’s only an opinion), that the translators gave “Yaakov” (Hebrew), “Iakboy” (Greek) the designation of “James” as an honor to the king of England.

      Nevertheless, when I became a Believer, I knew none of this and have always known the Lord as “Jesus” and He’s never suggested to me that He finds a problem with it, having answered innumerable prayers that I have addressed to Him as “Jesus.” I mention it only because, as was previously pointed out, your pretense that God divinely authorized a translation that is fraught with errors is nothing but an opinion (though widely held) which I’ve demonstrated in only one small but significant way, that undermines your fabrication of divine authority.

      Additionally, you’ve given NO evidence of when or how God communicated this “authorization” to the leaders of the Church of Jesus Christ. It’s obvious that’s because you are unable to do so and that’s the reason for your silence on this very important lapse. The reason it is important is because whenever we claim something is “truth,” we point to chapter and verse in the Bible, yet you have no chapter and verse to which you can point to confirm this empty claim of God’s specific authorization. This is extremely presumptuous of you. You are presuming to put words in God’s mouth. This suggests you lack the fear of God and don’t appreciate the soberness of Rev. 22:19. Although that verse arguably applies only to the book of Revelation, the weight of its warning should speak to you of how God holds people accountable for accurately representing His Word and you’ve “added” to it by claiming an entire translation now is not just a translation, but you’ve effectually claimed the entire translation as coming from the mouth of God! While this heresy is much too popular, men of integrity are not so foolish to arbitrarily, and on their own authority claim to speak for God, which is what you have done.

      Thinking you’re honoring God, you are, in fact, announcing that you don’t have enough fear of God to recognize your responsibility to hold your peace and not presume to speak where He is silent and where fact and evidence (the large body of poor [and even bad] translation work) demonstrates that He would not do so.

      You’d do better to honor the Word as God gave it and not dishonor Him by unduly exalting the work of men, all of whom fail and make mistakes. The KJV is not faultless, just as no other translation is.

      From my study, each translation has strengths and weaknesses and while it’s wise to appreciate the diversity that has given us, it’s also wise to diligently seek to understand the meanings for the original texts–even wiser than arguing that the proven errors in the KJV text are not errors at all because we want to fight for a spurious dogma of “God authorized only the KJV.”

      It seems evident to me that God gave (knowledgeable) men enough sense to understand that errors are necessarily inherent in translation (for numerous reasons) and to credit the Word *as He gave it* as divinely inspired because He said it was. Much effort has been made to give men access to copies of the original autographs, which is exactly what exposes the errors of the KJV, some of them glaringly contrary to what the Hebrew and Greek text actually says.

      I think it’s important to note that your sectarian attitude, in which it’s understood that you, at least in part, mean to honor God, does in fact, dishonor and detract from the better focus, which should be on the authority of the originals. I don’t know what your motive is, but it is misguided. God is not an Englishman, but His chosen people were the Jews, whose language of Hebrew is what God chose to authorize, yet, He found it appropriate to give us the New Testament in Greek. It seems to me that you would be wiser to pray about and consider why God chose to do what He did, than to give undue credence and authority to a version of the Bible which was largely copied from previous translations, a fact of which you appear not to be cognizant.

      The Dead Sea Scrolls have given the scoffers and mockers evidence of His power and the Jews’ faithfulness in preserving the Scriptures, something for which our appreciation is more fitting than the pretense that God “picked” an English translation (with shameful errors) as His “authorized” translation.

      Incidentally, in my experience, those who take the position you have taken are most often not only very ignorant of the errors of the KJV but worse, have no interest in learning, even though it would require little effort with access to the Internet. This is a travesty, not because finding fault is to be esteemed but because we cannot accurately perceive the truth of the Word of God without dealing with what it actually says and means. While there are places where the KJV excels (“Take no thought” Matt. 6:25), there are places where its failure is reprehensible (“borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows:” Is.53:4 [for those who don't know, those Hebrew words mean "sicknesses" and "pains" respectively and the NT illustrates that truth in Matt. 8:16-17]).

      Comment by Gary Sellars — January 18, 2013 @ 9:06 pm

    • Bill, I know it has been almost 4 years, but you stated
      If anyone is as amazed as I am after many years of study, they can contact me at the above listed email address, and we can take it from there. I do not own a computer, and am obliged to use the one at our local Library.
      I live in the town of Aurora, Ontario, in Canada.
      May God bless each person who serves our Lord through His wonderful works

      I am very amazed at the examples you put forth and wish to learn more.
      If materials are available that I can attain please let me know that too.

      Comment by PAUL BUNYAN — March 3, 2014 @ 9:17 pm

  3. By The Way: Regarding your comment about ” it was Englishmen ” who wrote the Authorized King James Bible, that is a correct statement, but do you have something against Englishmen? What else would one expect to find in London, in the center of the globe at the Prime meridian line?

    God said, ” And who as I shall call, and shall declare it, and set it in order FOR ME, since I appopinmted the ancient people ? and the things that are coming, and shall come, let them shew unto them,” ( Isaiah 44:7)

    and also : ” knowing this first, that NO prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation ; for the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man, but holy men spake as they were moved by the Holy Spirit, ( 2nd Peter 1:20 ).

    I think that is plain enough , and it shouldnt matter that they were Englishmen that King James had do the work that was directed by the Holy Spirit.

    As for what do the pygmies read, if they cannot read English, then someone who is able can write a translation into their language as long as it is a valid translation of English to Pygmy,and not a re-write as the NIV, NASV, etc are, a blasphemous re-write of God’s WORD, a version that is a perversion.

    There is nothing wrong in writing an accurate translation of the Authorized King James into any language as long as it is an accurate one holding to the Authorized King James version……. the true WORD of God.

    Bill

    Comment by Bill Cole — April 21, 2010 @ 11:44 am | Reply

    • It is pretty small minority of Christians who believe that it is the KJV and not the original Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek which constitute the authoritative text of the Bible, as it can be reconstituted from the manuscript evidence.

      I am in agreement with the Reformation view that (1) Priority and prestige of place belongs not to translations, such as in Latin or English, but to the text in the languages that the biblical authors themselves used (i.e., Greek, Hebrew, and Aramaic); (2) the Bible should be accessible in the language of the hearers–hence translations in the vernacular languages of the people are helpful for the edification of the church–the KJV served that purpose almost 400 years in the English speaking world. But it is not the only authoritative text of the Bible, because it is itself a translation from the Greek, Hebrew and Aramaic. For in-depth Bible study, attention to the original languages is necessary, and one cannot rely only on translations.

      Your view giving priority to the KJV may seem pious but it is regressive and sectarian.

      Comment by P. W. Dunn — April 21, 2010 @ 12:31 pm

  4. My middle name is Septimus.

    Comment by Samwise, Esq. — July 31, 2010 @ 12:51 pm | Reply

  5. The living word of God is in and through everything in creation. Everything that exists is parable. A blind man on a deserted island can know all of
    Gods truth, if it is Gods truth he is searching for, rather than his own agenda. The whole story of creation is Gods. And God gave the whole story to all creation. Before any book was even in print, Gods word was alive, and available, in everything that exists. God is much larger than the KJV.

    Comment by Donna Frye — October 1, 2012 @ 9:00 am | Reply

    • For those in the know, the Word was in the Beginning, it was with or face to face with God and God was this Word.

      The spoken Word of YHWH becomes flesh v.14. In other words, that which was predestined from the foundation of the world;
      the oracle and the plan of YHWH was finally spoken.

      “Jesus” became Jesus. And an itty bitty babe lived in the manger. Whoo hoo. John is thusly cohesive to his own Jewish roots. That there is One
      God and He is the Father, YHWH.

      John 17:
      3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

      Here, it is recorded the very extended prayer of our Lord as he was about to go to his final destiny on the Cross. He calls his Father the
      Only True God. He calls himself the man sent. No clearer scripture exists as gospel.

      You who purport to know the scripture ye doctors and scholars of divinity, hear ye. The Shema has never been modified or abrogated.

      John 1:1-3 must take into account the normal meaning of ‘logos’ or in the Hebrew, MEMRA, before any other definition is superimposed.
      The Word is not Christ and the Word is not YHWH as an equivalent proposition. John uses the LOGOS to mean this very (old) definition
      eighteen other times in John. Selah and Amen.

      And howdy once again. Thought I was going to go away? I am the living reminder to heed a certain thing, Doc.

      P.S. I believe the first three verses of John are a liturgy which explained why the MEMRA was replacing YHWH as a name, as HASHEM and
      the LORD also did. But I could be wrong and the above still true.

      Comment by Sola Yeshua — October 14, 2012 @ 1:36 pm

  6. Think about it this way. John’s purpose was what in the first three verses of his gospel? To prove that Jesus is actually another ‘god’ who lived with his Father before the foundation of Creation? Wow, what a stretch.

    Besides, this would contradict John 17:3 would it not?

    How about this? John’s purpose was rather to explain the AUTHORITY and PEDIGREE of Jesus’ own authority as the Prophet/Messiah who was prophesied of since almost the very beginning?

    This authority of Messiahship was what John was explaining. Jesus’ own witness is the very oracle of the One True Living God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. The MEMRA itself is witness to Jesus.

    Selah until the next reminder.

    Comment by Sola Yeshua — October 14, 2012 @ 1:51 pm | Reply

  7. To Bill Cole. Bill, The criticisms against you are completely justified. You place more emphasis on the KJV than you REGARD WHAT IT SAYS.

    That’s honestly pathetic. God exalted His Word, not the KJV OF His Word. You have such a phenomenal sense of absurd reasoning, actually DISHONORING GOD as you PRETEND to honor Him. Honoring the KJV does not honor God in ANY WAY. If you’d actually read the Bible, you’d find Deut. 17:6, which says, “At the mouth of two witnesses, or three witnesses, shall he that is worthy of death be put to death; but at the mouth of one witness he shall not be put to death.”

    Now, because you’re an idolater–that’s right Bill, by ignoring the Word and exalting the translation, you make yourself an idolater of a MAN’S translation which YOU TESTIFY FALSELY [making you a false witness and breaking one of the commandments of God] is “authorized” when I’ve JUST SHOWN YOU that the Scripture itself REQUIRES you to have “two or three witnesses” to establish the so-called “fact” that the KJV is “authorized” by God, yet, YOU HAVE NONE. You see that principle (mention twice in the OT and references no less than four times in the New is a spiritual truth to which Paul refers and is the cornerstone of establishing right doctrine. In other words, you are claiming doctrine by insisting the KJV is the only version authorized by God and you HAVE NO SCRIPTURAL SUPPORT FOR YOUR CLAIM WHATSOEVER!

    What really makes you look goofy is the MANY errors in the KJV, such as ITim 6:10 which IS INCORRECTLY translated: “For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.”

    Now, if you had done what you should have done, which is STUDY INSTEAD OF IDOLIZING, you would have found that the “the” in “the root of all evil” is not even in the text, yet it’s not italicized as is the routine discipline for words that are not in the original text. Furthermore, because it’s not in the original this means that the KJV actually is telling a lie, for anyone who is lacking sense can tell that the love of money is a root of all sorts of evil but it absolutely is not the root of all evil, for we see NO EVIDENCE that money even existed in God’s heavenly kingdom when satan rebelled and when a 13 year-old girl finds she’s pregnant and doesn’t want her parents to find out, only an idiot would say her desire for an abortion is the love of money. That’s just STUPID. Her problems are shame, embarrassment, fear of disappointing her parents, angering them, etc. The love of money NEVER even enters the picture.

    But there is no article “a” in the Greek language so the KJV translators simply did a very bad job.

    That’s not all, but for time’s sake, that’s all I’m going to include. The fact is, a book could be written on the glaringly obvious translation errors in the KJV and another book on the questionable translations, which could be called opinions of different people, of which there are varying opinions about how various verses should be translation. However, on 1Tim 6:10, there is no speculation. This is a BAD translation of that verse and if you’ll check other versions (because you’re clearly too ignorant of the Greek [or you wouldn't have even brought up this BOGUS subject] to examine the multitude of translation errors of the KJV), you’ll find that practically NO ONE else translated this very this badly.

    Bill, you’re too much of a novice and a parrot to have an opinion on this subject and you’re too ignorant of both the Hebrew and the Greek to be embarrassing yourself with such a remark that dishonors God, His HOLY WORD (which shall never pass away–and we WON’T be reading it in the KJV in the New Jerusalem!) and yourself.

    Do your homework and talk to an intelligent friend about this subject before you post again. I’m CERTAIN you have plenty of friends who are smart enough to see through this SERIOUS DECEPTION you’ve followed. Again, Bill, you’re NOT honoring God even if you think you are. What you’re doing is advertising silly religious bigotry and ignorance.

    Comment by Gary Sellars — March 9, 2013 @ 7:15 am | Reply

  8. Who authorized the KJV of the bible that Mr. Cole claims is the “only” authorized version? King James authorized the beginning of the translation but he was long dead by the time the task was completed. The only completely accurate scriptures would be those written in the original language by the original writers. That said, the scriptures accepted by christians for over 1400 years were those compiled by the Catholic Church in the very early centuries. There would be no KJV if the King of England had not put his divorce before obedience to God’s commandment to not divorce. Once the Kings own church was started, why not his own bible? And now we should accept this as the only accepted bible. What a wonderful expression of pride.

    Comment by mike noggle — July 8, 2014 @ 7:39 pm | Reply


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